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Jongibbs linked to this one, and I found it very enlightening - I understood, after reading it, exactly how and why I'd been disappointed by certain books. It's also something to watch out for as we attempt to tell our own stories! Peadarog kindly gave me permission to link to his post, so here it is:
http://peadarog.livejournal.com/79367.html
http://peadarog.livejournal.com/79367.html
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Date: 2010-01-07 04:22 pm (UTC)I think the TV Tropes site gives a very good definition of trope as distinct from cliche:
"Tropes are devices and conventions that a writer can reasonably rely on as being present in the audience members' minds and expectations. On the whole, tropes are not clichés. The word clichéd means "stereotyped and trite". In other words, dull and uninteresting."
As for the specific example you have linked to - the unintended romantic storyline - given that shippers can link any two characters regardless of age, gender, species, sexual preference, sanity, etc - I'm not surprised that a reader felt that she was being cued for a romance with a bickering male/female partnership. It is fairly classic - Beatrice and Benedick, Lizzy and Darcy, Maddie and David, Mulder and Scully, etc.
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Date: 2010-01-07 06:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-01-08 03:13 am (UTC)reader expectations
Date: 2010-01-08 12:19 am (UTC)But there will always be some folks that are on the long tail of the interpretation distribution; that's life. The difficulty comes when your reader response is all over the map, or all clumped over in left field when you expected them to be, er, mebbe a sports analogy wasn't such a good idea---what do you call home base again?
Though with a long time beta you'd expect hir response to be in the middle, which is I think flummoxed this guy so much...but people can and do surprise you. Even ones you've known a long time.
Re: reader expectations
Date: 2010-01-08 03:15 am (UTC)